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Age,
Wage and Vintage
The
Wheels within Wheels
DR BINOD KHADRIA
Dr Binod Khadria talks to the
editor about his pioneering
India Migration Report 2009
which has brought to light new
and emerging trends in international
migration. This report will
help young Indians unravel what
involves the migration of human
capital to distant shores. Dr
Khadria, a professor of economics
at the Zakir Husain Centre for
Educational Studies, Jawaharlal
Nehru University (JNU) is renowned
world over for his research
on the issue of brain drain
from India and seeks to intervene
significantly at policy levels.
He has been prominently associated
with organisations and networks
such as the ILO, IOM, OECD,
World Bank, WHO, GFMD, SciDev,
APMRN, and International Geographical
Union (IGU) and many universities
abroad.
The
India Migration Report is the
very first of its kind in the
country. What prompted you to
develop such a Report?
Simply the urge to make a beginning!
Despite being the homeland of
the third largest diaspora in
history and source of the second
largest annual outflow in contemporary
mobility, the issue of international
migration has for long received
scanty attention in India. It
is only towards the closing
two decades of the 20th century
that it has drawn greater attention
of policy makers, academia and
civil society in India. The
idea of bringing out India Migration
Report annually was first mooted
in 2008 at the 20th Conference
of the International Association
of the Historians of Asia (IAHA)
hosted by JNU, and subsequently
reaffirmed in early 2009 at
the International Conference
on India-EU Partnerships in
Mobility that we co-organised
with the Ministry of Overseas
Indian Affairs in New Delhi.
Each annual edition of the Report
is to be dedicated to a particular
theme, and data sets collated
to build upon year after year.
Did you find it difficult to
select a baseline as a reference
point for your Report as you
have claimed that migration
data is scanty in the present
milieu?
After considerable deliberation
our research team selected the
theme of 'Past, Present and
the Future Outlook' for the
Report particularly with a view
to take stock of all data we
could lay our hands on, even
if partially. We did not have
much choice, but we did our
best to gather data from domestic
sources, primarily Census 2001
on immigration, and the destination
country sources for emigration.
The future tasks for subsequent
annual editions are enormous.
We have suggested that the Registrar
General of India initiates a
brainstorming session with us
to ensure systematic and rich
data in the Census 2011 through
an improved questionnaire and
new table formats.
Do you perceive any shift
in the migration pattern of
highly skilled Indians in the
recent decades?
Highly qualified and talented
people have been emigrating
from India en masse since the
late 1960s. However, in recent
times India has drawn worldwide
attention as a country of origin
for migration of so-called 'knowledge
workers', mainly the information
technology (IT) professionals
and nurses to developed countries,
with 80 percent of them going
to the US. Even this has become
passé, and the emerging
trend now is that younger generations
of Indian students are migrating
abroad to the lure of 'study
abroad opportunities'. The international
education fairs regularly enrol
students for foreign universities,
some on fellowship grants but
mostly self financed. Another
noticeable trend is that more
professionals have started moving
to newer destinations, including
the Gulf countries where the
infrastructure development is
complete and service sector
employment is increasing.
Do
you think older Indian migrants
are opting to be back because
they have developed a sense
of patriotism in the recent
decades?
The question of patriotism is
interesting. People like Har
Gobind Khorana and Subrahmanyan
Chandrasekahar were considered
deserters when they left India
and became American citizens.
It was only when they won Nobel
prizes that India considered
them national heroes. Whereas
there is a lot of talk about
the return migration of skilled
people to India, most of it
was triggered by the layoff
when the IT bubble in the US
burst at the turn of the century.
The subsequent return to take
up jobs or start-up ventures
in the BPO or outsourcing industry
in India was more the lure of
high multinational salaries
and low cost comfortable lifestyle
here rather than patriotism.
A trace of a 'co-efficient of
patriotism' as I called that
in my book, The Migration of
Knowledge Workers, a decade
ago, is still reflected by the
expatriate Indians when they
prefer to accept a slightly
lower rate of return on their
investment in India than abroad!
But return for patriotic reasons
is still a rarity.
What
is the present trend among immigrating
population into India?
More than 95 percent of all
immigrants in India have either
been born in or have come from
an Asian country. Bangladesh
is sending maximum number of
immigrants to India. Almost
60 percent of the total foreigners
in India are from Bangladesh.
Census 2001 results show Pakistan
as the next major source country
followed by Nepal. The other
countries of origin with more
than 20,000 immigrants in India
are Sri Lanka, Myanmar, United
Arab Emirates and China. These
are mostly medium and low-skilled
workers. There were 23,721 people
with last residence in China.
Increasingly highly skilled
immigrants from the developed
western countries are also accessing
India, for study and work, especially
in the IT hubs.
Mobility
as well as hierarchy in jobs
has been traditionally low among
women migrants - do you see
any change in mindsets in the
present context?
Mobility of women is still low
in the developing countries,
with the exception of Latin
America and the Caribbean. Except
Indian nurses, migrating to
developed countries, data do
not substantiate any change
in the mindset, although more
and more women professionals
now seem to be mobile. In the
developed nations one could
notice that labour market participation
of Indian women accompanying
their husbands to the US has
increased. In terms of hierarchy
in jobs, the glass ceiling is
thicker for Indian women than
men working abroad, but they
earn better than women of other
foreign nationalities in the
US, signifying that on the average
they hold high-tier jobs.
In
what way/s can your Report assist
policy initiatives?
The Report advocates for a policy
tool that I call 'equitable
adversary analysis' whereby
the contribution of migrants
in development of countries
of origin would be assessed
from the point of view of stakeholders
in countries of destination
and vice versa. The analysis
would help a country like India
press for international norms
in multilateral negotiations
around the issue of migration,
particularly Mode 4 of General
Agreement on Trade in Services
(GATS) under the WTO negotiations.
At multilateral dialogues, the
vulnerability of the migrants
to arbitrariness in consular
practices and the instability
of visa regimes underlying the
'open-and-shut policy' of the
destination countries could
be the two key aspects that
India as a country of origin
ought to try negotiating. To
remove uncertainty of access
to global labour markets and
achieve stability in migration
patterns, we need to ask for
an 'expiry date' on each policy
change in immigration regime.
What
is your opinion on the recent
attack on Indians in Australia?
Is it racism or is it conflict
of interest?
I do not think one could take
an either-or view and draw a
clear dividing line. Social
cohesion across communities
in multicultural societies could
wane due to conflict of interest
between different identities,
and lead to xenophobia. You
would recall how the German
Green Card plan to attract large
numbers of Indian IT professionals
at the turn of the century fell
flat because of the slogan mongering
of 'Kinder stat Inder' (German
children instead of Indians)
associated with street violence.
The heat is now on Indian students
in Australia because they, as
the 'semi-finished human capital'
are the new embodiment of brain
drain in place of finished human
capital that used to move as
ready-made workers or professionals
often becoming targets of backlash
from local unemployed population.
The root of the conflict of
interest must be dug out in
the open and resolved with grit
and determination rather than
buried to score political or
diplomatic mileage.
| "There
are newly emerging contours
arising from three dynamic
conflicts of strategic
interests among origin
and destination nations,
best described in three
generic terms, 'age',
'wage', and 'vintage'.
The stereotype benefits
of brain drain, viz. remittances,
technology, and return
migration to the countries
of origin can be weighed
against the three benefits
that accrue to destination
countries. The latter
derive the advantages
through higher migrant
turnover in temporary
and circulatory immigration,
to (a) bring in younger
migrants to balance their
ageing population, (b)
keep the wage, perks and
pension commitments low
by replacing older migrants
with younger migrants,
and (c) stockpile latest
vintages of knowledge
embodied in younger cohorts
of overseas students.
It remains to be judged
what the counterpart costs
are for origin countries." |
India
Migration Report 2009
PAST, PRESENT AND THE FUTURE
OUTLOOK
Traditionally the cost of 'brain
drain' has been the financial
loss of investment in education
and the skill loss to the country
when highly educated Indian
workers migrated and settled
abroad. Conversely, the primary
benefits are seen to be the
monetary remittances, the transfer
of technology, and the return
migration of those Indians further
educated and experienced abroad.
Consequently, the wheels of
perception in India have moved
from 'brain drain' of the 1960-70s
to 'brain bank' of the 1980-90s,
and subsequently to 'brain gain'
in the 21st century, currently
giving a boost to temporary
and circular immigration policies
that have been increasingly
put in place of the permanent
immigration policies by the
developed destination countries.
The 'India Migration Report
2009', launched on the International
Migrants' Day, 18th December
2010, spanning seven concise
chapters, focuses on such issues
of international mobility and
highlights concerns such as
remittances, gender and migration
of health professionals apart
from new issues of terrorism,
security, and climate change.
There are 25 million Indians
(non-resident Indians and persons
of Indian origin) living overseas.
In terms of sheer numbers, that
translates into a diaspora that
is larger than the population
of Australia. Over the last
two decades, Indian migration
patterns are beginning to shift.
The new Indian emigrant is younger,
seeks different destinations
and professions, and returns
for reasons other than sheer
nationalism.
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